my Coolsat 6000 has been real good to me. IMO better than VS ultra.....milestones above the Maggie I have. I heard about the norw reorganize b4....I remember the clone deal and dont buy 6000's anymore....blah, blah, blah.....what a great STB and code team, my 6000 was up several times over the last year when maggie was down and VS needed updated bins. Thats exactly why I ordered a CS7000. But please.....don't d/c 6000 support, it's my fave!!!!!