Cant find 119 - pointing problem

[Slowlane]

I'm so new this is my first post so be patient with me please.

I cannot find 119 with a seeing eye dog. I have pointed at everything but the moon.

I have a brand new CS 7000 PVR flashed with the old file and the latest bin. (no prob).
I have gotten all the coordinates for elev & AZ. & skew. Have also tried zero skew.

I am running a single RG6 (hooked up to the 119 side) from a Dish 500 with Dual LNB's to the reciever with no switches.

Limited instructions with the CS7000 on dish pointing have me at a loss.

Satellite: 119.0 Echostar 7
Frequency: tried both 12224 and 12239
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: Legacy Twin 2 (have also tried other settings)
LNB Freq: 11250
Diesqc sw: off/off/off
Legacy sw: off

Level: 80%
Quality: 0%

I assume that the Quality line is the one that shows how the dish is pointed. I have never gotten it to budge.

Trying to use the 7000 to point the dish assuming the quality line would move at some time this month. Am I doing the wrong thing? Got the wrong settings? Need a switch.
I have collected pounds of data on this before respectfully asking for your help so, thanks in advance for anything you can suggest.

[conanenterprises]

0 % quality eh. Usually you can get some signal even if you are way off the sat, which makes me wonder if your connections are good or if the LMB is no good. Heard stories of LMBs not working but even then they still got signal. Perhaps the dish is too close to the roofline? I usaully use a sawhorse and clamps to ensure I have a signal and then mount the dish nearby in effort to stop the guessing game. Make sure you have the coaxial from the dish in the "sat in" port and not in the loop. Perhaps frequency settings could play a part (12224 mhz) Lmb (12450). These are just example and not proven by myself but they are some of the things I would sugest trying. Keep me posted on your progress. Also, Sat locators are a very handy tool and any dealer will have one. Txsgent has an example of one in his/her signature. This tool I definatly recommend.

[Slowlane]

Thanks a lot for your help - will try your suggestions and more. Its dark, I'm tard, down for the night.

[Slowlane]

I ordered a signal meter this morning - also another new lnb (just in case mine is bad) and I'm gonna do some more research while it is being shipped. Thankeyvarymauch

[conanenterprises]

Also I should inform you that old coaxial cable wont work with satelite dishes. G59 is the older type and g6 or g06 is the new type. This will be printed on the cable itself in numours places, roughly every 4 feet. G59 is for TV antenna. I think you can get away with G59 so long as it its a very very short span. This could also contribute, but honestly I feel its your LMB. You will know right away when your sat finder shows up. Friend of mine went through the exact same thing. He used an old dish that he got from a friend who let it sit in his shop for years. Weather it was moitsure, dust, or just mistreatment, when I gave him a new LMB and my sat finder, he switched the LMB, the sat finder started "singing" and without even moving the dish he had 40 percent. So Im optimisitc about your situation and hope the best for you. Keep me posted.

[krzykronixxx]

for 119.. its not 12224or 12239... .. its 12516....

[txsgent]

This is what your settings should be.. if you have 2 legacy.. single/dual lnbs.. on your dish.. and you are running straight from the 119 lnb to the receiver.. no switch.
LNB Power ON
LNB Freq: 11250
LNB Type: Single for legacy... OCS-DP for Dish Pro
22Khz: OFF
TP Freq: 12239 unles you are in the spotbeam of 12224.. most people aren't..
DiseqC: None
Motor: None
Legacy SW: None...
now if you are confusing a single/dual lnb.. with a Twin lnb.. which is 2 lnbs encased inside of one plastic housing and calling that a Dual.. It is a Twin or a Quad.. depending on how many RF connectors you have on it.. you would have to remove it from the holder to figure that out.... if it is 2 RFs on one side.. or 2 RFs on one side, with a 3rd Input on the other side.. it is a Twn... if it has 2 rfs on one side and 2 rfs on the other side.. it is a Quad... keep us posted. good luck.. txsgent

[No_PaRoLe]

As txsgent says, your LNB Type should be OCS-DP for the Dish Pro lnb. There is a program called satfinder which should be in the installation tools section. Get that program and a compass and you should find that bird easily.

[Slowlane]

I have brand new RG6 quad with self sealing gel and enclosed in buried conduit 165 ft from the reciever. Super plumb dish pole made of galvanized pipe. I also have a clear view.

I have used the sat finder program recommended here and I have a very good compass.

[Slowlane]

I also have made all my connector terminations with the compression type tool and appropriate fittings.

per your instructions "if it has 2 rfs on one side and 2 rfs on the other side.. it is a Quad.."
- - so now I know I got a quad - - and I have only tried one rf connector so far on just one side so, mabey the other LNB is good and I should try it. I will but, been gone all day and just got back and wont get a chance til tomorrow.

I will try the following settings:

Satellite: 119.0 Echostar 7
Frequency: 12224 and 12239
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Freq: 11250
Diesqc sw: off/off/off
Legacy sw: off

Thanks a ton for your help cause (I aint got nobody) else to talk to about this that would even know what it was if they saw it. and, I will be sure to let you know how my progress is going.

[edwinsao]

Originally Posted by Slowlane

I'm so new this is my first post so be patient with me please.

I cannot find 119 with a seeing eye dog. I have pointed at everything but the moon.

I have a brand new CS 7000 PVR flashed with the old file and the latest bin. (no prob).
I have gotten all the coordinates for elev & AZ. & skew. Have also tried zero skew.

I am running a single RG6 (hooked up to the 119 side) from a Dish 500 with Dual LNB's to the reciever with no switches.

Limited instructions with the CS7000 on dish pointing have me at a loss.

Satellite: 119.0 Echostar 7
Frequency: 12239
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: Legacy Twin 2 (have also tried other settings)
LNB Freq: 11250
Diesqc sw: 1.0
Legacy sw: off

Level: 80%
Quality: 0%

I assume that the Quality line is the one that shows how the dish is pointed. I have never gotten it to budge.

Trying to use the 7000 to point the dish assuming the quality line would move at some time this month. Am I doing the wrong thing? Got the wrong settings? Need a switch.
I have collected pounds of data on this before respectfully asking for your help so, thanks in advance for anything you can suggest.

remeber you dont need any switch with this dish and also 110 is very close so you can catch it alot of ppv channels in there,as soon you catch 110 or 119 you can play with your dish left and right good luck,check your settings as i put in the quote

[Slowlane]

AHHAAAAAAAAAAAAAA........................!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!! Got 127 channels ! ! ! !
For the first time ever my transponder line started moving and changing colors.

I did make the above changes and it worked. It seemed that one of my LNBs was bad.

Still to answer the great secret society hidden question - - - ? ? - - What does the darn QUALITY line supposed to do - I have never gotten it to make even a tiny change from zero. Altho my level is 81%. Perhaps I should post this in the CS7000 section?
Once again, Thank you too much.

[No_PaRoLe]

If you have a dual or have a Quad LNB it should be the same.. Set it up as follows and let us know what happens.

Satellite: 119.0 Echostar 7
Frequency: 12239
LNB Power: On
LNB Type: OCS-DP
LNB Freq: 11250
Diesqc sw: 1/off/off
Legacy sw: off

You should also be able to get 110 but setting the Diseqc to 2.