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can't get above 75% strength
CW 700 Guides & Discussions
04-16-2008, 06:06 PM
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can't get above 75% strength
two days and lots of reading of forums..
My dish is a used dish 500 and i used the dish setting tool to get the correct skew, and so on.
I double checked my connections and even used on lnb direct to the reciever..got the reciever and a tv on the roof..all the settings are correct in the menu..i had a direct tv dish i was using and i had tv and enjoyed it so i did have it set up..rebooted lots of times..factory default lots of times. cuzzed and swore lots of times..
even built a new pole and made sure it was so straight every side. used two compasses...
checked the trouble shoot here and this i found...:"4) Bad LNB ? An LNB that’s going bad can refuse to give you a good signal. Expect a sudden massive drop in Signal quality "" is there any way to check the lnb..both of mine read low even if i have only one connected to the reciever and shut off the menu so only one can be seen..it goes to 75 then move a hair and goes to 60..im i going crazy..in setting this dish..
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04-17-2008, 05:42 AM
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Firstly can you post your antenna settings?
What sat are you aiming at?
All the testers here need some basic info to be able to help you.
Make sure you don't have any trees , branches, buildings etc. blocking the signal from the sat.
Your post say you can't get above 75% signal.
This is good enough as long as it is steady. If it changes a lot then there is a problem.
All this reading tells you is that you are getting power to the lnb, it does not indicate that you are receiving anything. Are you getting a steady Signal reading?
Quality is what should also be steady and at least above 50 to lock in a sat. Are you able to lock in a sat?
If either or both values are jumping up and down then you could have a bad connection from the receiver to the lnb.
Since you did a direct connect to the receiver, it could be a bad lnb or bad cable or bad connectors.
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04-17-2008, 08:01 AM
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I am aiming at 119 and 110 with the dp..using 225 on the compass...i also have just emimatated the swithch at all and brought the cable directly into the reciever either by doing 110 or 119 by itself and the numbers are the same as if i use the switch..
this is the one satellite it is as lnb 3..(number 2 on my cw switch will not read anything. )l..110W Echo 8,10 -- LNB Type: OCS-DP for Dish Pro) -- LNB Freq: 11250 MHz
For Quality Use TP: 12224 Scannable Channels: and 119W Echo 7 -- LNB Type: OCS-DP for Dish Pro) -- LNB Freq: 11250 MHz For Quality Use TP: 12239 Scannable Channels:
i can get the signal to stay at 75% for stenth but i never get any quaility at all..and what is weird to me is if i reboot and go into the satellite signal in the menu i hear the quaility beep 3 times then it stops...
I have use the dish pointing zip to get the correct figures..i am very plum and i set my skew to 116 and the azimuth to 225 and elevation at 30... i also found a dish pointing program that shows the road i live on so i know exactly where to point down the street.
I have elimated the cables and connectors becasue i am only 2 feet from the dish and the cable is a good cable and has wire in it not only the tin foil like cheap ones..
I even went in the menu option and hit city and state to put my city and state close to the one they have in the cw 700....if that means anything..
If i get it at 75% it is steady when i lock the nuts down..but never any quaility..it doesn't jump up or down very steady...
Does it mean anything when i reboot and go to menu and it beeps 3 times with the quaility..like a mother board on a computer beeps mean warnings?
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04-17-2008, 10:19 AM
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to ponder for help...i have a old direct tv dish with one lnb . I put that back up to see if i screwed up some thing...put it on the pole and it hit 80%strenth and 80% quality.. first shot..mind you this is a one lnb but it has to be the dp dish right? so both lnbs are bad can't i plug one lnb right to the reciever and it should go to 80% 80%strenth like the single dish..right..
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04-17-2008, 01:12 PM
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Wolf on Prowl ➢
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Then only thing i see is you need to do is set correct port for each lnb.
Setup your DisEqC
119 = port 1
110 = port 2
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04-17-2008, 03:02 PM
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yes i have that still doesn't work..it says dish pro on the front but i wonder if it is a legacy that doesn't work with cw700
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04-17-2008, 03:10 PM
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Wolf on Prowl ➢
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try 218 on compass.
Code:
http://dishpointer.com
Also if you got to try going 5 degrees more ne way are another.
Last edited by XRange; 04-17-2008 at 03:15 PM.
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04-17-2008, 06:16 PM
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All your settings appear ok.
It still looks like the dish is not properly aligned.
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04-17-2008, 06:30 PM
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try tweak the dish SLOWLY moving it have some watch the signal and quality for you!!! wait a min or so between movements!
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04-17-2008, 06:46 PM
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i have done that for 3 days now..putting it exactly then moving it to the left a weee bit the wait then to the right wait.. up and down..no lie 3 days..
like i said i have a direct tv dish and got that up so i kinda know what i am doing...since i found satellite 110 and it comes in good with the direct tv single lnb..
..i took the dp dish and only the eye let with the right side wich is the 110 and took the wire directly to the cw700 reciever and i lined it up on the same pole that the direct tv dish..I even painted the roof to give me the same spot the single direct tv dish was at..so i should of only had to move it a deg or two nothing..only 75% strenth and 0 quality. I brought my dp lnb in is there a place to see if the serial number is maybe a legacy...i was told legacy will not work with captain works..what you think..or is there a old dp that wont work..
Inside by the eylets there is a date of ..3-12-05 maybe to old...???
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04-17-2008, 06:52 PM
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also i even tried other satellites so i am suppose to be 225 with the pointer i have gone way over to see if i even can get other satellites always the same..only 75% and no quaility..yes i the other satellites i move it away from the 30 for elavation like i am suppose to be just to see if i can get another satellite in and it is the same..so i have played for at least 30 hours on the roof...and i really mean that...tv and reciever are up there so i just sit and move..wait...move and wait...so i have hit every deg....in the menu i have used standard and osp for the dish..
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04-17-2008, 07:18 PM
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Code:
http://www.dbsinstall.com/Dish_network/Dish_network_Dish_Pro.asp
i believe this is my lnb...called a dish pro twin...and it talks about this one and legacy..
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04-17-2008, 07:18 PM
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which one of these lnb's is yours
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04-17-2008, 07:23 PM
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on this lnb you not use the port on right looking at the picture above in my other post. it is to add a third sat from another dish. the two post on the left both have 110/119 because of the internal switch run one line from one them to you stb and use
OCS-DP
119 lnb 1
110 lnb 2
and try to get more signal from there.
hope this helps
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04-17-2008, 07:32 PM
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Teachin FTA
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OK chefdpm..... if you have any of the lnbs posted in the pictures above... you have either a quad.. or a twin lnb.... a quad lnb has 4 rf connectors on it... a twin will have 2 or will have an additional 3rd one.. but it is actually an in.. not an out....
So... lets get a few things figured out.. if we can....
First you only run one cable... from the twin or quad lnb.. to the receiver.. you do not use an external diseqC switch of any kind.... on the twin, you will use either of the 2 on the 119 side of the lnbs... not the single one by itself.... on a quad.. you can use any of the 4 rf ports on the lnb.... but you only use one cable.... on either the twin or quad lnb....
You will still use the OCS or OCS-DP setting for the LNB Type..
you will still use the 11250 for LNB Freq.
you will still use the disec Settings in antenna setup.... 119 port 1... 110 port 2
for 110.. it is TP Freq 12224.... for 119... it is TP Freq 12239...
let us know how that works out....
Dish Pro... says.. Dish Pro on the backside of the LNB... Dish Pro Plus.. says.. DPPlus
Legacy lnbs.. say Dish Network.. or nothing at all....
keep us posted... good luck.. txsgent
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04-17-2008, 07:35 PM
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my lnb is not like those up there..it is like the page i gave...it has only two eyelets and they are on the out side like the page i supplied..
Code:
http://www.dbsinstall.com/Dish_network/Dish_network_Dish_Pro.asp
\dish pro twin? only two eyelets
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04-17-2008, 07:38 PM
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Teachin FTA
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Quote:
Originally Posted by chefdpm
my lnb is not like those up there..it is like the page i gave...it has only two eyelets and they are on the out side like the page i supplied..
Code:
http://www.dbsinstall.com/Dish_network/Dish_network_Dish_Pro.asp
\dish pro twin? only two eyelets
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It shows 3 different LNBS... so is it the top one.. the middle one.. or the bottom one?
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04-17-2008, 07:41 PM
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yes mine is the top one with only two eyelets
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04-17-2008, 07:45 PM
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i believe you answered mine is a twin dish pro and i only have one wire come out and leave the other eyelet open and that should fix my problem and under menu do as i been told and have 119 as one and 110 as two..
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04-17-2008, 07:57 PM
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Thank You All That Clears It Up...
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