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Old 08-02-2011, 01:33 PM   #1
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Can Someone Find me with my IP Address?

Possibly, but most likely not without a subpoena.

In most cases all that can be easily determined is who the person's ISP is and possibly the state and city they reside in.

In some cases with static IP address DSL or business DSL services the ISP provides IP allocation records to the American Registry for Internet Numbers XXX.arin.net, the non-profit organization responsible for managing Internet numbering resources in North America.

As an example SBC used to include customer information in those allocation records, but due to privacy concerns now uses their own information with a customer reference number.

For users who want to afford themselves some additional level of anonymity we suggest you read about internet anonymity, Proxy Servers, and how to hide your ip address.

Try using this tool to look up your IP address.
How can someone find out who I am?

A little background first.

IP address allocation is handled by The Internet Assigned Numbers Authority (IANA). IANA in turn, delegate authority to Regional Internet Registries (RIRs). The RIRs, in turn, following their own regional policies, further delegate blocks of IP addresses to their customers, which include Internet Service Providers (ISPs) and end-user organizations.

Each of the RIRs handles a specific geographic area:

* ARIN (North America and portions of the Caribbean)
* AfriNIC (Africa)
* APNIC (Asia and the Pacific region)
* LACNIC (Latin America and portions of the Caribbean)
* RIPE (Europe, Middle East, Central Asia)

Each of these organizations allow lookups to be to that data. Different ISP's segment their blocks of IP addresses by region and you can see that in the lookup. The lookup provides the name and address of the organization the block of IP addresses was allocated to. The ISP's can name these blocks if they choose. The naming often indicates a geographic location, for example, IRV-CA, aka Irvine, California.

Here are links to the URLs where you can lookup an IP address. Be aware that if you lookup an Asian allocated IP address in a different region's RIR it will provide a link to the appropriate RIR.

* North America and portions of the Caribbean
* Africa
* Asia and the Pacific region
* Latin America and portions of the Caribbean
* Europe, Middle East, and Central Asia

In general, I start by looking up an IP address with ARIN seeing what geographic location information I can learn from the results.

From there I do a reverse DNS (rDNS) lookup to see what hostname the ISP provides. A hostname is something like xxx.example.com, or can be more specific to include regional information.

From there I do a traceroute which displays the hostnames many of the machines in between two points on the internet. (I'm making this *really* none technical here...) Sometimes the rDNS/hostname of a specific IP address will not reveal any location but the rDNS/hostname of the machine next along the path will reveal some.

That's about all the information that can be obtained without a subpoena. In many cases people reveal small amounts of personal information about themselves on forums, chat rooms, blogs, etc that can be used to build a profile of who you might be.
 
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Here's what I know can not be found out based on your IP address:

* Your email address
* Your real name, phone number, or address
* Any other personal information.
* The only way anyone can find out who you are from your IP address is if they contact your ISP and your ISP looks up the address in their log files. I don't know of any ISP that will do this without pressure from law enforcement or government agencies.
 
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Very Good Points,ukrkoz!

This Will all come down to How Much pressure the provider is willing to pursue against the ISP's.
To get to the End User.
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All it will take is.. the provider.. having enough IP address's.. to go to court.. and get a court order for something like this
John Does.. 1 thru 3000..... to find out who they are.. and start contacting ISPs.. such as Verizon.. or AT&T.. and produce.. the court order.. and provide the IP Court systems on their side already.. because of all the cases they have already won on... how do you think that Ports are getting blocked... to stop access to the server.. this is how I see it... and I know.. I always look at the doom end... of things... txsgent
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IP adress is like a signature....
It's not your receiver that will be the problem but your computer internal info that will give yourself away.....With the right equipment and knolage, 3 days after, they will be abel to know where you live, what you eat for super and what kind of short you are wearing....All this without leaving there seat.... they do not have to knock on doors to do that...

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txs, with all the girlfriends that you have, it's amazing that you have any time for tv. regards Buff
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txs, with all the girlfriends that you have, it's amazing that you have any time for tv. regards Buff
txs never watches TV ever ..............

all posts good read.... txs there is an end to everything i agree .
think they can find my hill really..... ? way up in the mountains .

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txs, with all the girlfriends that you have, it's amazing that you have any time for tv. regards Buff
I wish.. I had time to watch some TV.. I have a legal subscription.. that I do not even get to enjoy.. spend too much time... on places like this..typing...lol.. or reading.. trying to learn something... not sure about those girlfriends.. either... just an old man.. past his prime..with some memory that works from time to time...


Lilypad.. anything is possible. depending on how bad they might want you... and that is the $64,000 question... just how bad do they want to pursue end users....... txsgent
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txs you do a fine job here, wish everyone would appreciate just what it is that you are trying so hard to do. Protect the site and it's members. Regards Buff
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txs spends a lot of time typing .............. in..... his..... posts......

sorry, txs, you know me, I already pinched you with this a year ago. maybe it's just pauses for inhales? Like that Beatles song, Oh Girl.....

anyhow. Apparently, I did some research on value of IP - and the message we saw. It bottoms down to several things.

1. it is not my credit; Google is full of fine articles on this nature
2. IP address is not YOU or YOUR LOCATION. it is general area where pool of those addresses is located. I tried to pin point mine, and every search was off by 10-15 miles. I asked this question in a computer geeks forum, and they told me it's simply location of relays and switch boards from your ISP
3. your ISP DOES KNOW YOU AND YOUR LOCATION.
4. every ISP has some sort of "compliance with official investigation" policy.
5. no ISP will simply comply with it though. There must be a subpoena.
6. ISP, normally, contacts you first and requests you to stop illicit activity. If you do not, you will be warned and service suspended.
7. Every ISP has to have very hard grounds to disclose anything personal about you, as they risk being slammed by a lawsuit.
8. ISPs will not change your IP. period. Even if they tell you you have dynamic IP, it is still same no matter what trickery you. You have 2 choices: - buy a new modem and HOPE IP will change. Been there done that, it did work; - go on vacation. Disconnect your modem/router completely, power it all down, and go on vacation. Give or take a week, when you reconnect and power back up, ISP's switchboard will issue you a new IP. Short term disconnects, like a day or so, do nothing. But there's unpleasant caveat to it anyway. Your old IP will be logged anyway, and can be easily found if so needed.

At this point, it all boils down to "will they have subpoena" or not. I firmly believe, that anyone staying connected is doing nothing less but pouring more and more oil into their flames. They showed themselves very capable of finding their ways into your receivers. I bow to them. Good job. So, I got my warning, chit is disassembled, I am not playing this game anymore. Matter of fact, I am very sure, one of my neighbors hacked my network not so long ago, I already filed official inquiry on this with my ISP, so that they have that on record.

Also, I found very simple and cost efficient way to have more TV than I can ever dig through. 100% legit, and seriously better than any DN programming or cable. Maybe not as much porn, but there are alternatives to that either.

As a final word, it was a great ride and fun. Time to kiss it goodbye and move on.
 
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sorry, let me add something else. That they know "your" IP means diddly squat. It is useless until it's "personalized" for individual persecution purposes. hence, just like txs said - they will have to have official suite and subpoena to "personalize" this info. And, as I said - don't give them that opportunity. I spoke.
 
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txs spends a lot of time typing .............. in..... his..... posts......

sorry, txs, you know me, I already pinched you with this a year ago. maybe it's just pauses for inhales? Like that Beatles song, Oh Girl.....

anyhow. Apparently, I did some research on value of IP - and the message we saw. It bottoms down to several things.

1. it is not my credit; Google is full of fine articles on this nature
2. IP address is not YOU or YOUR LOCATION. it is general area where pool of those addresses is located. I tried to pin point mine, and every search was off by 10-15 miles. I asked this question in a computer geeks forum, and they told me it's simply location of relays and switch boards from your ISP
3. your ISP DOES KNOW YOU AND YOUR LOCATION.
4. every ISP has some sort of "compliance with official investigation" policy.
5. no ISP will simply comply with it though. There must be a subpoena.
6. ISP, normally, contacts you first and requests you to stop illicit activity. If you do not, you will be warned and service suspended.
7. Every ISP has to have very hard grounds to disclose anything personal about you, as they risk being slammed by a lawsuit.
8. ISPs will not change your IP. period. Even if they tell you you have dynamic IP, it is still same no matter what trickery you. You have 2 choices: - buy a new modem and HOPE IP will change. Been there done that, it did work; - go on vacation. Disconnect your modem/router completely, power it all down, and go on vacation. Give or take a week, when you reconnect and power back up, ISP's switchboard will issue you a new IP. Short term disconnects, like a day or so, do nothing. But there's unpleasant caveat to it anyway. Your old IP will be logged anyway, and can be easily found if so needed.

At this point, it all boils down to "will they have subpoena" or not. I firmly believe, that anyone staying connected is doing nothing less but pouring more and more oil into their flames. They showed themselves very capable of finding their ways into your receivers. I bow to them. Good job. So, I got my warning, chit is disassembled, I am not playing this game anymore. Matter of fact, I am very sure, one of my neighbors hacked my network not so long ago, I already filed official inquiry on this with my ISP, so that they have that on record.

Also, I found very simple and cost efficient way to have more TV than I can ever dig through. 100% legit, and seriously better than any DN programming or cable. Maybe not as much porn, but there are alternatives to that either.

As a final word, it was a great ride and fun. Time to kiss it goodbye and move on.
Very good post I hope this will help other members still up change their minds and shut down
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sorry, let me add something else. That they know "your" IP means diddly squat. It is useless until it's "personalized" for individual persecution purposes. hence, just like txs said - they will have to have official suite and subpoena to "personalize" this info. And, as I said - don't give them that opportunity. I spoke.
As I have stated already.. they will get Doe Warrants.. just like they have on other issues.. sure, they will have to specify.. AT&T .. or Verzion... etc.. on those warrants. but they will have no problems getting them.. and getting the information needed.. if they are going to go after the end users.. you are entitled to think as you like.. but to the best of my knowledge.. you have never pinched me.. on these topics.. you might think you have.. but you haven't..
If they want you.. they can get you.. they have lots and lots of money.. to go after anyone they want to... I am still recommending.. everyone stay away from the receivers.. the files.. and the servers.. jmo...... txsgent

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Can I get someone's name and address from their IP address?

I have the IP address from someone who's causing me some problems. Can I get their name and location from that?

Yes and no.

But mostly no.

I get this question a lot, so let me explain.

As I've discussed in previous articles, there are common services on the internet that will return information about an IP address. Services like ARIN, PlotIP and others will return information about the ISP or hosting company that owns the block that the IP is a part of. Typically that will include the name, address, phone number of the ISP.

"... if you're a regular person just trying to track something down on your own, you simply cannot get the information."

At that point your only option is to contact the ISP and ask them. They do know which of their customers the IP is assigned to. The problem is that ISPs will not give this information out to just anyone. Typically it will require legal actions, as part of some kind of police or court proceeding, to get the ISP to release the information.

So can you get a name an address from an IP? Yes ... if you have the legal backing to go get it. Otherwise, if you're a regular person just trying to track something down on your own, you simply cannot get the information.
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If they want you they'll get you! Watch the news and all the time they're busting people looking at child porn on their comp. With all the computer programs out there that can do this and do that , I just don't feel confident they can't find me.
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I will put in my two cents on this thread and this is based on personal experience. Not something that I heard that has happened to some one else. This happened to me personally. A few years back one of my friends brought me a stolen laptop so I could bypass the OS password. Sure enough I did that and got connected to the internet. Keep in mind that I don't have a static IP address and they traced it to me anyways. Two or three weeks later I got a call from a detective and he asked for me by name so the moral of the story is that all they need is an IP address and they got you. Your ISP has your phone number, address and name. They also keep logs of your IP addresses so they can match it to you even if that is not your current IP address. Oh yeah they got me with a simple IP address.
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My question is...???
what can happend if you find you use an anthena (one of those used to access a an open signal from your local BK or other place) and using a dedicated PC (with no other info than the OS)transfer the signal to your box?????
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what can happend if you find you use an anthena (one of those used to access a an open signal from your local BK or other place) and using a dedicated PC (with no other info than the OS)transfer the signal to your box?????
That would make it harder to find you.. but.. I have read. where they took a person to court over child porn.. but it turned out.. they never accessed it on their computer.. but used an unsecure Internet connection.. and a neighbor was using it. you know. like you are doing...lol.. and they served new court papers on the neighbor who was borrowing the signal.. so, unless you are 100% sure.. they can not trace back to you.. and living 1 or 2 houses away.. is not 100% sure... is my view on this.. txsgent
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