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Old 07-30-2011, 09:19 AM   #21
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I wont believe until they bring a case against satzen or i-link or anybody for that matter.
It is everyones choice to do as they think is best for them.. I will keep saying. until this is all cleared up.. shutting down is the best solution for the members safety and security.. rather than take a chance of getting a letter.. if it is not too late to prevent that already... because.. if it is true, they are logging IP's.. how long have they been doing it.. before they sent the message out? jmo.....txsgent
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Very interesting reading but the sky is not falling.
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Very interesting reading but the sky is not falling.
I guess I missed the post where the sky is falling.. lol.. there is a choice each person has to make, what they think is good for them... as a member of the staff it is my job to make sure that members do understand that there is a big risk to persue being connected.. and taking the chance of being taken to court over this... one solution is to ignore it.. and hope it does not affect you.. another solution is to take it seriouly enough to just shut the receiver down and disconnect from the server.. as I keep posting.. I am suggesting the safer of the 2 choices.. but again.. it is each persons choice to make and decide.. for those who think there is nothing to worry about.. I hope they are right and do not wind up going to court and paying a fine over it.. but what if they are wrong and all they had to do was shutdown to avoid it.. txsgent
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I haven't seen the C/P posted here yet : maybe feeding into the rumour but.......

c/p techo7

It is looking that it is real.

The Phone Number is Legit.

SO everyone please take heed.

We are warning everyone to unplug their Ethernet Cables from their Ilink and Satzen if they are using Public Server.

Now if they do have User's IPs already then they may have traced them to any Private Servers being used as well.

The reason to unplug the Ethernet Cable is so that they may not get enough info to indicate how long you were connected to the Server that was taken over or get any info on the fact that you kept trying to get your receivers to log in.

If any one should happen to connect to it by mistake then I believe it could be used as a defense I would think.

Now contrary to what some may say, Ips can be logged and traced but until the MAC Address of the Ppl logging in can be determined, anyone on an open Wifi Network can deny it was them...cause in reality it could be a neighbour logging in all this time cause all PPCs or Network devices using the same Network will by known only by that singular IP that is seen by the outside world as being your IP addreess and not what IPS we see when we do Ip configs..

So folks, please do not take this too lightly. and do not get too Co-cky by thinking that because you are using Private Servers they cannot find you, cause once they have your IP address they can find you anywhere if they decide to spend the necessary resources to do so.

Now my biggest fear is for the Users of Viewsat and Xfactor cause their Receivers have no way of displaying that message so they will get no indication that that those servers may have also been taken over, cause I truely believe that they may have been.

The Newer CNX Receivers do allow for Server Messages to be displayed, so let us see how long before they start getting the same message as the Ilink and Satzen..... why? Because we know they share the same Channels but do they merely share the Feeders or do they share the same Servers.

On another Note of caution... why do you think the cousins have been have so many DNS Resolution issues these past several weeks, requiring new bins for some but not for others, I believe it was DN thru Satscans redirecting their DNS...... now it seems they do have control of the Servers.

I suppose new Bins could re-direct the Receiver connections to new Servers but how long before they get redirected and taken over again.

So please everyone for now unplug your Network Cables and turn off your I-links, Satzen till further notice....... as I said before I have a strange feeling that VS and Xfactor if not already taken over may be soon.

I am extending this warning now to all Viewsat and X-factor users. Until we find out otherwise don't you think it best that if we are to error that we do so on the side of Caution and assume that the Servers for the Cousins have been taken over?
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Please do not take this lightly this is not a Hoax or the work of hackers.

This is for real folks, Satscams (DN) has taken over the Iks Servers for I-lin, Nano Receivers, Satzen. Topsat, Viewsat and X-factor, so do not try to power up your Receivers
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Well I have read your post for years and you have so right on target. So thanks again I'm listening. I will retire them again until more is known.
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Here is an interesting comment by BlackOut at another site. My neighbor brought it to my attention and I thought to share it with all of you. My take is that if you settle you are toast, if not then you are just conspiring with Charlie to pirate which negates their case.

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PS - I told my neighbor he should disconnect and unplug. Better safe than sorry - wait for the air to clear.
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This ia another cp from another site



no tele"phony" conversation can ever be used as the truth or fact in any case, civil or criminal...someone can impersonate me ect ect ...so the courts wont accept those type correspondence to make a case...furthermore, the language in that message is a soft approach as opposed to the "hard" and down and dirty nasty stuff a lawyer would usually write...this is no doubt a scare tactic, ONLY...and IF this law firm was directly involved with this ? they would have written it themsleves and would be a whole lot more serious

while its true this law firm specialize in "Infringement and Copyright" cases and have in the past won huge judgements? they are not about to start fielding calls from end-users on how to become a diknet subscriber...geezaloo give your heads a shake man...im not suggesting that these public servers and/or scums is behind this BUT to read that message and to think this would pass the smell test, in today's legal world?

it is to laugh...ignore it and move on...now if you should happen to get a letter, a registered one? then and ONLY then should anyone be a wee bit bothered...

finally, the notion they would come to your door? i mean another head shake, PUH Lease...unless you are a big time server op? the enduser can sit back and relax!! you are but a pebble on that beach that not DN or Nag and friends will EVER be interested in, PERIOD!!!
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no tele"phony" conversation can ever be used as the truth or fact in any case, civil or criminal...someone can impersonate me ect ect ...so the courts wont accept those type correspondence to make a case...furthermore, the language in that message is a soft approach as opposed to the "hard" and down and dirty nasty stuff a lawyer would usually write...this is no doubt a scare tactic, ONLY...and IF this law firm was directly involved with this ? they would have written it themsleves and would be a whole lot more serious

while its true this law firm specialize in "Infringement and Copyright" cases and have in the past won huge judgements? they are not about to start fielding calls from end-users on how to become a diknet subscriber...geezaloo give your heads a shake man...im not suggesting that these public servers and/or scums is behind this BUT to read that message and to think this would pass the smell test, in today's legal world?

it is to laugh...ignore it and move on...now if you should happen to get a letter, a registered one? then and ONLY then should anyone be a wee bit bothered...

finally, the notion they would come to your door? i mean another head shake, PUH Lease...unless you are a big time server op? the enduser can sit back and relax!! you are but a pebble on that beach that not DN or Nag and friends will EVER be interested in, PERIOD!!!
wow!....again refer to post 25....The question I seem to ask myself is why would someone POTENTIALLY put them selves at risk regardless of the small % they wont go after end users for the sake of TV for a couple days until more reliable info is forthcoming.
I'll be comfortably sitting on the sidelines watching cable
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On the Phone legality issue.. I must remind members of this.. you can not always take what others say as fact as that includes anything I might say too......lol..
Now. to remind people of a legality.. on phone recording.. does anyone remember a He/She, from Canada...that was working for MrV.... and all of those phone recordings we got to listen to.. ... never think they can't be used against you.. they can...txsgent
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It has been said here and other sites IT IS BEST TO UNPLUG YOUR EQUIPMENT until more information is known. I have done that as well as my friends.
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It has been said here and other sites IT IS BEST TO UNPLUG YOUR EQUIPMENT until more information is known. I have done that as well as my friends.
That is a wise choice for you and your friends to make.. and glad to read you did... txsgent
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I always love the posts from "Internet Lawyers"... Seriously people, don't take the risk until you see how things pan out. Especially if you were using your own internet connection to connect. As I've always stated Life is too short to get upset over FTA. Thats why I have a subscription.
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I also have a subscription and have had one for 3 years and my VS max has been only used for the weather I wonder if they could have got my IP from me using that fuction ?
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I guess I missed the post where the sky is falling.. lol.. there is a choice each person has to make, what they think is good for them... as a member of the staff it is my job to make sure that members do understand that there is a big risk to persue being connected.. and taking the chance of being taken to court over this... one solution is to ignore it.. and hope it does not affect you.. another solution is to take it seriouly enough to just shut the receiver down and disconnect from the server.. as I keep posting.. I am suggesting the safer of the 2 choices.. but again.. it is each persons choice to make and decide.. for those who think there is nothing to worry about.. I hope they are right and do not wind up going to court and paying a fine over it.. but what if they are wrong and all they had to do was shutdown to avoid it.. txsgent
agreed...we have always tried to be up front with the members about the risk....thanks for pointing that out....mrtech
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Here is an interesting comment by BlackOut at another site. My neighbor brought it to my attention and I thought to share it with all of you. My take is that if you settle you are toast, if not then you are just conspiring with Charlie to pirate which negates their case.

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do you think they are above hiring a team to do this,
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I also have a subscription and have had one for 3 years and my VS max has been only used for the weather I wonder if they could have got my IP from me using that fuction ?
the weather feature should be safe,
nobody ever got busted for checking the weather
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I'm with you BLG. Some coders working in BFE hacking iks sites is not beyond the realm of possibility. Deep pockets, layers of protection & operating out of a third world country with lax or no laws. Any of this sound familiar?
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