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Old 12-09-2008, 01:02 PM   #1
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Just thought I would pass on some research on how Nagra 3 will impact the FTA Hobby.

How will the switch over to Nagra 3 affect the FTA Hobbyist? The same way the switch from Nagra 1 to Nagra 2 did five years ago. Oh, you were not around for that one? Okay, just kidding so here is just a little background.

D*N and B*V use the Nagra methodology to encrypt transmissions with unique codes. Since Nagra 2’s codes and methodology are well known to current decoders, Nagra 3 has been implemented. Therefore, Nagra 3 will bring in new encryption methods for encoding transmissions.

This will require D*N and B*V to switch out the Nagra 2 access cards used by subscriber boxes to Nagra 3 cards. The new Nagra3 cards, are referred to as the ROM241 (D*N) and ROM240 (B*V). The new D*N cards are also referred to as "G3" cards since G3 is on the front of them.

The exact dates as to when all the card swap outs to the subscribers is unknown, it is hard to pin any particular dates to exactly when the FTA hobbyist will be impacted.

Word is that B*V completed its card swap a couple of months ago and their testing is basically complete. Therefore, one can guess that B*V will be completely over to Nagra 3 by the middle of November 2008.

D*N began its card swap out this month and word has it they will switch out their HD channels first. Therefore, it is anticipated that D*N will take significantly longer to complete and one could guess early 2009 all channels will be over to Nagra 3.

So, when will the FTA Hobbyist be able to receive Nagra 3? There is no date certain but all past and current indicators are that receiver manufactures will be working fast and furious to develop their codes and have them ready for issue shortly after the D*N card swap is complete.

There is some concern about will the current receivers handle Nagra 3. Yes, there is a strong probably that most all receivers will be able to receive Nagra 3 if it is the same kind of swap out as Nagra 2. A misconception is that one will need an MPEG 4 receiver to receive Nagra 3. MPEG 4 is just a compression method…while most HD programming right now is MPEG 4 it doesn’t mean it has to be—HD is also broadcast in MPEG 2.

Therefore, some downtime for the FTA Hobbyist seems inevitable. So you might think about recording some movies for future use; obtaining basic cable service; use computer TV networks; etc. The main thing is not to panic or get discouraged. This will be a short spurt and all will live through and survive the down time if and when it comes…who knows, the manufactures coders my already have a product ready to go.

Hope this was informative and relieved some of the angst about the switch over.
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Thanks SuspecT , Good Info ,,,
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Great info thanks hope this helps many out!
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encouraging info.! like a christmas present. thank you.
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Excellent post. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.

By the way, I was there five years ago when they switched from N1 to N2

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Good call..Thanks for sharing...
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Good stressssssssssss relief.Thanks..
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Nice info SuspecT... I to was around for the switch from N1 to N2, that is why this hobby is so great. All the cat and mouse games...
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welcome to the best site on the net and this thread is about n3 a new ecryption for the providers' stream...
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I hope this will help many out understand what is goin on!
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Wow, that was the best information I have read in quite some time, so easy to understand for a small fry like me. Thanks a million, what a great post!
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great info thank you and thanks again to all the coders
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it is May when then start changing out DN
I got that from the manager for all the installers known him for years
but he said they said the card is broke as of now so that is why they are waiting to see if they can stop the FTA's and card ppl from using the new system by changing a lot of older receivers to new HD receivers and upgrade the firmware on the boxes they can not do to the older ones and that includes the 310.10
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Very well said and Great Info
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