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Old 11-30-2016, 04:55 PM   #21
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Elevation is very important.. to make sure you are pointing correctly up in the sky..

pointing towards the garage.. is my guess your Azimuth.. the direction you point the dish..

take pictures of where you are adjusting the dish..

I would use a 2x4 with a turnbuckle on it.. so you can move the dish up and down.. if it is a long enough turnbuckle. until you can afford an Actuator Arm.. to move the dish.. with the motor on the AA..

maybe one like this.. so that you can run a bolt thru the eyes and use washers to keep it from going thru the eye totally..

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ok here are the pictures of my install and i hope it does not come down on a strong wind i use like 12 inches long screws ..according to dishpointer 97w is around next to the big palm tree . right now is pointed at w58
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We always suggest moving 1/4" & waiting for 15/20 sec. With a big dish maybe only 1/8" would work better. Once you locate a sat mark the pole & dish so you can return to that sat easily. Remember besides moving east to west or west to east you need to change the elevation also for each sat in the belt. Dish pointer site shows the linear lnb skew & which way to skew by arrow. You should also be able to move the dish symbol to where you have it mounted to get an accurate line of site. Try left clicking on the dish & dragging it to the proper location.
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[QUOTE=Surreptitiousss;735567]We always suggest moving 1/4" & waiting for 15/20 sec. With a big dish maybe only 1/8" would work better. Once you locate a sat mark the pole & dish so you can return to that sat easily. Remember besides moving east to west or west to east you need to change the elevation also for each sat in the belt. Dish pointer site shows the linear lnb skew & which way to skew by arrow. You should also be able to move the dish symbol to where you have it mounted to get an accurate line of site. Try left clicking on the dish & dragging it to the proper location.[/QUOTE
i notice that the numbers change very slight . like if am at 58 and go to 61 is only should i follow the sky like the way a rainbow shows? the only bad thing is that some western sats. like 135 if i aim my dish goes over my neighbors wall and i do not think he would want half of my dish on his side.
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Like a rainbow explains it.

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List of Satellites in Geostationary Orbit

If you access this "list of satellites in orbit" page, please help by sending updates and changes to me:
Eric Johnston - hxtp://www.satsig.net/sslist.htm

List below updated 16 Aug 2016
Total number of active satellites = 419 (20 November 2015) 427(9 July 2016) 429(16 Aug2016)
Name refers to the official spacecraft designation, Made up as follows: year and day of launch year 05=2005, day of year 056 is in February, A= is first item off the rocket, B= second item off the rocket etc.
Common name is what companies use to give it an easy (?) to remember name. They are changed from time to time, for example if the satellite leased to a new customer or marketing people think of some new idea.
Geo Orbit position is the longitude position around the geostationary orbit. The satellites are all approximately fixed in the sky above the equator. Negative orbit position numbers are degrees West from Greenwich meridian. Positive numbers are degrees East. Negative numbers are degrees longitude west.
Inclination: Some older satellite, whose north-south station-keeping fuel has run out are in inclined orbits. The inclination angle is shown. This means they move north-south across the equatorial plane on a daily basis. Tracking earth station antennas are used to follow these satellites.

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predicted the use of communications satellites in the fixed orbit 24000 miles or so above the equator. Satellites in this belt are termed as geo-stationary due to the fact that they appear fixed in relation to the earth. Satellites are kept in position by on board rocket boosters. Satellites have a limited life because of the low amount of fuel on board. However they are regularly replaced by updated powerful satellites. The satellites broadcast a beam to earth rather like a torch beam with a powerful signal at the centre getting weaker at the edges. These beams are also known as footprints and all satellite owners publish maps that predict the EIRP or radiated power that determines the size of dish required to receive a signal. Satellites also have multiple beams meaning that some signals are stronger or weaker from the same satellite. Sometime the edge of a beam can have strong signal areas as the fade rate from a beam will vary causing confusion over dish size required in certain areas.


A dish has a view of the satellite belt that is over the equator known as the satellite arc (see image). In the UK the available arc is around 60 degrees East and West of South at an elevation of around 30 degrees at south getting lower at the edges. Most satellites broadcast high in the arc to avoid problems with line of sight. The dish is set up to track the arc so that satellites can be received. The majority of European style receivers have the
protocol that allows control of a disecq dish motor down the same cable as the LNB. Some motors also have the
(Universal satellite automatic location system) Protocol that means satellites positions are preset into the memory of the motor for easier installation.
Fitting a motorised dish will depend largely on location and available line of sight to satellites. Using a compass and inclinometer to determine line of sight is one way to check. Many installers use the Satpointer app on iphone to check for line of sight or online see http://www.satpointer.com
One of the most important factors is to ensure that the pole that the dish and motor is installed on is 100% level in all aspects or the motor will never track the arc correctly.
Dishes can be mounted on the wall or ground depending on dish size and line of sight etc. It is best to get your local installer to carry out a survey and give their recommendations.
Once installed receivers will automatically move the dish to the correct satellite after a channel is selected.
Older dish systems used a separate 36v power lead to power motors that used reed switches and optical sensors to memorise dish positions.
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very great answers thanks for your time! i will try again tomorrow am going to go slow..thank you very much for the great support and ideas.. also ..do i need to mess with the lnb frequency i been leaving it at 5150 and not to get off topic.. this is another issue...do not get confused.. for anik 118 the lnb that can get 119 and 118 at same time..if i blind scan 118 do i need to scan 119 as well? or 1 scan will get both?
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ok here is my progress report ..i think i found the arc now i have this issue i can hear the beeping no locking i hear around 6 birds on the arc and the only one that locks is the last one is 116 sat mexico.. do i need to somehow tilt the bud up or down am talking about the base the ones attach to the pole i see this huge screw is meant to either go in or out and that will make my dish point higher or lower cause when i hear the beeping and i move very very little i see the S and Q jumping like crazy but is around 20% and 18% and the more i move slow the crazier it gets ,,thats a sign that the bird is there cause same thing happen when i hit 58w and 116 then it locks , any tips?
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The larger the dish.. the harder it is to hit 1 single satellite.. that is facts.. not just my opinion..

I was taught.. many years ago..
You hit the top dead most center satellite you can find.. That is the satellite right above you.. straight up..
then you make sure you East-West Limits will let you go far enough east and west to hit one satellite on each end of the horizon.. remembering that if you go to far the dish will drop.. Arm will not stop it.. might even break the arm..

but since you are not using a motor yet.. and are going after 1 satellite..
Find the satellite you want to go after.. using lyngsat.com to see what channels are in the clear.. not scrambled.. that you want to watch.. then go for that satellite..

your images.. those 12" lag bolts. will last as long as the Tree Stump will is my guess.. when it starts rotting the dish will become unstable. jmo..jmv too many strong winds and it might start moving the dish anyway.. but with it being wire mesh that at least lets some wind pass thru the dish also..

But that Pole.. the dish is mounted on has to be perfectly level.. on 2 sides.. N-E.. or N-W... Or S-E..or S-W.. to hit any satellite correctly..
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the pole it is level , so any idea why birds not locking ? i explain to you i hear loud beeping and i can tell when i need to stop but not locking the birds .. but there is nothing else i can do..i can only move the dish the way it moves ..left or right ..my only option is to loose a screw a little bit and try to either move dish higher or lower .. also question when i say lock on 116.8 it never lock i can only get it to 69% i think is due to my damm huge avocado tree. the one am looking is 97 for now i know am closed but this damm thing wont lock am doing it very slow spend like 5 hours. and no luck only one should i put my dish like before i use to get W58 and did lock but if i put there thats were east will end how far west can i reach? also i try moving the lnb i only scan 17 channels from 116.8 maybe cause not lock am thinking .. huge question for you ,,,my linkbox 8000 did not want to turn on when i connect the c band.. am using jynbox v3 and i have 7 sats total ,,,am i stressing the box to its limits?
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The numbers are probably for skewing the lnb - don't know about the sq part.
boss i found out the square thing is the dielectric plate. but it says this..
If you want to receive any of the satellite signals above, you need to insert a dielectric plate into the throat of your LNBF. The plate should make a 45 degree angle with both probes inside the LNBF. It will convert circular signals into linear signals but will add some attenuation to the signal. Furthermore, your LNBF will no longer receive linear signals. Perhaps a better option would be to purchase a circular only LNBF to avoid any attenuation, but unfortunately, such prime focus LNBFs are not manufactured for either C or Ku band!
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so what kind of signals is this
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Beeping.. with a meter that does not identify a satellite is not of any use to me..
it is good for fine tuning once you find and lock onto a satellite.. jmo..jmv

U have to find a Cband Satellite.. If that is a Cband LNB you are using.. and I think it is.. did not check.. to verify..

Does it also have a Servo Motor on it the regtangular blue box.. that changes polarity from Vertical to Horizontal?



that is a servo motor.. if you are not changing polarities..
then you are only getting one polarity and that makes it hard to find a working channel let alone a working satellite..



Try and hit.. Galaxy 19.. 97.0W

3940 H TP 12 Cband 42.1 -43.1

Bounce is MPEG2 channel 193..

but.. GRIT (241)... Escape(257).. Justice Network(273).. Laff(289) Automotive TV(65) and Buzzzr(69).. are all MPEG4

Light Yellow using lyngsat.com is.. in the clear SD..
go to the bottom of the page it will show what each color is.. and if it is clear or scrambled..



U Can try.. Galaxy 16.. 99.0W

has a couple of Colorado Springs channels in the clear and COZI too..

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41.6 cozi ... KWHSLP CS...... KWHBTV.. Tulsa KWHETV and FETV religious but has tv shows too..
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all your comments i apreciate i get ideas and try to understand your knowledge ..am very new to ""C::BAND i have no idea what lnb i bought no wonder why i cant pick up some channels could it be the lnb type or there just scramble when i change channel it says ""WAIT"" look this is excalty what i have and i always wonder the ones you show me all the time look so diference ,,right now am on low $ but will buy the one you show me with C/K can my fta receiver handle those lnbs the ones you show me with servor ?
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also please check me lyngsat please ..how many on the clear do you see you told me in yellow correct ? cause i only getting 16 channels.. Eutelsat 117 West A at 116.8°W
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if i install the dialetric plate it will make my lnb circular would i loose 116.8 and galaxy birds if i do that?
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