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UglyMoMo
10-08-2007, 02:22 PM
If in Florida, what might be the best transponders for 110/119?

I’m a new member, I have read the site rules and been through the visitor’s welcome station. I’ve also read the Newbie, Common FAQs, and SonicView forums for answers. The information has been excellent and I’ve learned a lot.

The information presented on the LyngSat site is comprehensive and there are loads of transponders to choose from for EchoStar 7 (119) and EchoStar 6,8 (110).

The system particulars are:

SonicView 4000 with the 163p bin

EchoStar 7 (119) EchoStar 6,8 (110)
LNB Power On On
Lnb Type Legacy Twin A Legacy Twin A
Lnb Freq 11250 11250
TP Freq 12239 12224
Search Opt All All
Diseqc Port 1 Port 2
Motor Disable Disable
Legacy SW Off Off


As far as the dish and LNBs, they are from the Direct TV install. It’s EchoStar DishPlayer 500 with legacy LNBs and the old receiver is a 7200. They owner pays for this and everything works fine when that’s being used. A toggle switch could be installed to move back and forth between the two receivers (old 7200 and new SonicView 4000).

When the new receiver is hooked up, the problem for the owner has been finding the proper transponders to attain as many channels as possible. When the first sat is scanned, say EchoStar 7 as listed above, 88 channels might show in listings with most of them available on TP 12239. When the second sat is canned, EchoStar6/8, TP 12224, more channels might be added but some that were available on Echo 7 may no longer be and new ones will be available per Echo 6/8.

Other transponders for the two satellites have been tried but it’s always a toss up as to what will be gained and what will be lost. It’s quite a test of patience with many factory resets involved to purge the receiver memory and get a true determination of what transponders offer what and work together to deliver a well rounded bevy of viewing.

So back to the questions:
1) Is it correct to think that only one transponder per port is available whether on the same satellite or two different ones?
2) How might one find the best channel sources given the many available transponders?
3) Why do the transponders seem to work against each other adding/removing channels from what a transponder might have previously afforded on the other port & scan sat?
4) The existing LNBs may be outdated. Might this be the reason more channels are not coming through and so the difficulty with transponders? These could be upgraded but then the existing old receiver might not work on the system (with the 7200 receiver; of course this could be done away with depending on SonicView results). Initially, LNB OCS-DP was selected but quality was at zero for key transponders. LNB type legacy Twin A has been more successful. The existing LNB’s being used are digital LNBF BSNA5-506A.

Thank you for your consideration. I’ve read as many forums as I could to find answers before posting this. Sorry for the length.

coorslightly
10-08-2007, 02:26 PM
on 110 channel 538 transponder 12297mhz is the strongest.

UglyMoMo
10-08-2007, 03:09 PM
Thank you. That netted 111 channels in place of the previous 88 for transponder 12224.

UglyMoMo
10-08-2007, 03:15 PM
How important are LNBs? Is is advisable to update the legacy LNBs? What might this do for improvement if anything?

No_PaRoLe
10-08-2007, 03:25 PM
I am not too familiar with those legacy LNB's. You setting look ok but I think that you should try changing you LNB type to single. After that do a factory reset and rescan. See what you get. do you actually have a Diseqc attached?

No_PaRoLe
10-08-2007, 03:27 PM
Thank you. That netted 111 channels in place of the previous 88 for transponder 12224.


What type of scan are you doing? Are you doing a full scan or just each transponder?

UglyMoMo
10-08-2007, 04:00 PM
I don't actually know what a diseqc is. The settings were recommended by another via email, ie port 1 and 2.

As far as the way the scan is being performed: menu . . .dish . . .the satellite is chosen (EchoStar 7 for 119 or EchoStar 6,8 for 110), all the selections are chosen per the first post (lnb type, freq, etc), the specific transponder is chosen, and then scan sat is done and saved. A/R is on and sort SID after scan is set to on. With scan sat having been performed on 119 at TP 12239 and the previously suggested 110 at 12297 there are a total of 270 channels (all dupes have been removed). Nothing else is layered on top of two transponders being chosen. If something else is to be tried, the owner factory resets to start fresh. Single for LNB type is the next test and I'll report those results.

No_PaRoLe
10-08-2007, 04:30 PM
Keep us posted. it sounds like you are scanning correctly.

UglyMoMo
10-09-2007, 07:03 PM
As a follow up to yesterday’s problems, things are going well.
The current settings yield 270 channels.
The biggest problem was that the receiver was not being allowed enough time to A/R through the channels.
The owner mistakenly thought that once the Sats were scanned there’d be viewability in minutes.
The settings being used currently are listed below.
Thank you to everyone for the help.

Dish 500
Receiver SonicView 4000
LNBs Digital LNB BSNA5-506A

Satellite EchoStar 7 (119)
LNB Power On
Lnb Type Legacy Twin A
Lnb Freq 11250
Transponder 12239
22khz Off
Search Opt All
Network On
Diseqc Port 1
Motor Disable
Legacy SW Off

Satellite EchoStar 6,8 (110)
LNB Power On
Lnb Type Legacy Twin A
Lnb Freq 11250
Transponder 12297
22khz Off
Search Opt All
Network On
Diseqc Port 2
Motor Disable
Legacy SW Off